DW-TV: For more we’re joined by Karim Barkawi, from Barkawi Management Consultants. And first of all I would like to know, what's your take on the logistics situation in Duisburg? Is there anything that you'd say they could do much better? Karim Barkawi: Well, first of all I must say that extending their logistic services to do things like cleaning cars is an excellent idea and a lot of other logicitcs companies have done that in the past and are continueing to do that which is a trend we see in the market called contract logistics where they take on more and more activities like assembly call center operation so I think it is a good idea and I see this coming in the future.   DW-TV: So they are creating synergies which is obviously something that you probably advise them to do as well if they'd call you. Karim Barkawi: Absolutely because they would do similar kinds of services for different companies different industries and thereby creating as you said synergies and thereby reducing costs. DW-TV: Now you work with a lot of global players, you advise a lot of companies also in the so called brick contries, the brick states. Is there a certain pattern where you would say this kind of advice works for all of them or is it very individual. How does it work. Karim Barkawi: Well first of all, if you go by industry it is different. As you see that some industries are doing quite well these days, they are in the process of optimizing their existing structures. whereas other industries like machinery and the automotive industries obviously are trying to radically change things and are putting up turnaround programms. As you get to different countries, you have still growing countries like India and China and they're working on their basic infrastructure needs. Whereas in other countries, more developed countries a lot infrastructure is there, and they're just optimising processes. DW-TV: Now lets stick to this radicaliziation of turnaround whi...